Can I Take Iodine When I Have Hashis
Yes!!! If you hear or read someone state that all Hashis patients should avoid iodine, you might want to question other things you hear or read from that source. Because there are a strong body of Hashis patients who report doing quite well on iodine, and some outright report that it was their iodine use that lowered antibodies, even if others need extra help. Doing an iodine loading test can confirm if you have low iodine. And since iodine is the main component of thyroid hormones, plus has anti-cancer benefit, the use of iodine can be a wise decision.
For others, its trickier, since iodine can promote the detoxification of certain toxins like bromide, and this can exacerbate symptoms. And they wrongly blame the iodine, when its the detox causing issues. This is why its important to learn about companion nutrients to counter the die off. Bottom line, we let each person decide what is right for them.
Thyroid Pharmacist Izabella Wentz
Izabella Wentz is a well respected pharmacist who also developed Hashimotos and hypothyroidism. Through her own determination and knowledge as a medical professional, she has managed to reverse her autoimmune condition by implementing several lifestyle and diet changes. She has a very large following on Facebook especially and her books are loved by many patients.
Hashimotos Autoimmune Thyroid Attack
Have you gotten a diagnosis of Hashimotos disease? Or suspect it? Its a common cause of hypothyroidism due to an attack on your thyroid by your confused antibodies. You also might see it called thyroiditis. And Hashis has its own issues that one without it may not have. So start with this informational page to become more informed!~Janie, hypothyroid patient and site creator
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Do I Test My Frees After Taking A Dose Of Thyroid Meds
Weve sure learned the hard way that its a big NO!! That is because there is a slight rise of T4 after taking meds, and a definite high rise of T3 after taking T3-containing meds. We dont want to test those temporary rises. We want to know what we are hanging onto. So we take our meds as usual one day, then test the next morning BEFORE taking our thyroid meds for the day.
Show Notes & Links From The Video
In this video, I interview Janie Bowthorpe. Janie Bowthorpe is an author and thyroid advocate. She is the Author of the Stop the Thyroid Madness books as well as the creator of the Stop the Thyroid Madness Website where she has spent many years writing about her experience and the experience of other thyroid patients. With the use of NDT, she was able to reclaim her life and she now helps other thyroid patients do the same.
We spend a lot of time time talking about Natural Desiccated Thyroid and what makes it a great thyroid medication. Janie goes into detail on how she was able to improve her health with the use of NDT, how much NDT she is taking, and how her dosing has changed over the years.
We also spend time talking about the pitfalls of using thyroid facebook groups. These groups have some benefits but they can also the source of a lot of bad information which then gets propagated in the thyroid community
If you want to learn more about Janie you can check out her website as well as her books below:
- More information on iron and thyroid function More information on the connection between low thyroid function and iron deficiency.
- Nutrients deficiencies which impair thyroid function List of nutrient deficiencies that should be looked at and addressed in all thyroid patients.
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Stop The Thyroid Madness: A Patient Revolution Against
And today, its the Stop the Thyroid Madness movement which is slowly changing the way doctors treat patients. But theres still a long way to go. So use the information in the Stop the Thyroid Madness books to give you power in the doctors office. Its only by standing AGAINST the poor standards of hypothyroid treatment can you truly get well! Customer reviews. 4.6 out
Do I Treat My Hashimotos With Thyroid Meds
Because Hashimotos means a nutty attack on the thyroid, most end up with hypothyroidism. So the majority of Hashimotos patients still end up needing thyroid medications to treat their hypothyroid state.
The RIGHT TREATMENT, which isnt T4-only, can help Hashis patients see the attack cease just from treatment alone, probably due to improvement of the immune system. Every cell in your immune function needs T3! Some doctors have unwisely recommended non-treatment until labwork stabilizes, but that could take months and years, and you continue to suffer.
WHOOPSto successfully raise meds with T3, we have to have good amounts of iron and cortisol!! If you have bad reactions, its due to problems with either, NOT the medication in the vast majority of cases. Study:
Many patients have reported that selenium supplementation, up to 400 mcg, has helped, especially if you have high anti-TPO. Some patients have also reported that iodine supplementation outright lowered their antibodiesyes, you read that right, contrary to some who tell you no iodine. Low Dose Naltrexone has helped the more stubborn cases. See below. And of course, you have to take care of any gut problems!
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Book Review Stop The Thyroid Madness Ii Edited Byjanie A Bowthorpe
Janie Bowthorpe has become a force to be reckoned with. Her first book, Stop the Thyroid Madness, chronicles her return to health after decades of dealing with misdiagnoses and misguided treatments. She describes herself as suddenly becoming more alive after finding out about desiccated whole thyroid and changing from l-thyroxine treatment only. Her book can be an inspiration to anyone who struggles with reduced energy levels or never feels quite well. Bowthorpe is also the author of a blog in which she shares the huge amount of thyroid information she has discovered herself and gathered from others who she engaged through social media.
Bowthorpe has taken another direction with Stop the Thyroid Madness II. In this volume, she serves as the editor of a collection of chapters written by practitioners who have recognized the complexity of thyroid issues. These practitioners have made large changes in their approach to recognizing thyroid dysfunction and assisting their patients to truly turn their health around.
The current standard for treating thyroid issues blessed by the society of endocrinologists is to only use one thyroid test, thyroid stimulating hormone , and then only to use one thyroid hormone, T4, to treat. After treatment, only the results of dropping serum TSH levels are used as a measure of success. Healthcare practitioners are taught that this standard prevails, while the fact that resolution of symptoms has not happened is dismissed.
Stop The Thyroid Madness: A Patient Revolution Against Years Of Inferior Thyroid Treatment
1) This world-renowned bible of patient experiences and observations which is now updated, continues to have the life-changing information, no matter your cause of hypothyroidism
2) but it now has numerous updates throughout where needed, and out-of-date information removed.
3) Both adrenals chapters 5 and 6 have been updated a great deal about the use of Adrenal Cortex , while still having info about hydrocortisone . Chapter 6 now mentions what information applies to either ACE or HC, or BOTH. Both mention the importance of saliva cortisol rather than blood.
4) The T4 chapter now mentions Tirosint, a gel form of T4, but continues to explain the problem of forcing the body to live for conversion alone, whether gel or not. That fact will not change.
5) There are now light gray rectangular boxes throughout the book, meant to highlight certain important sentences of information.
6) Emphasis is now on serum iron. i.e. the former book would mention both iron/ferritin, but we now know that its far more about serum iron as far as what to make optimal. The emphasis about ferritin is more about its ability to reveal inflammation, but can reveal a methylation issue when low with good or high iron.
7) Examples of more changes:
9) There are additions to the list of supplements as well as certain foods.
NOTE: Ignore the part in Chapter 2 that said NP Thyroid still works. It was later recalled due to lots of problems in 2020.
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How To Find A Good Doctor
Doctors can be ridiculously frustrating for us as thyroid patients. A large percentage Endocrinologists, for example, usually get an F on their report cards by thyroid patients for simply being obsessed with Synthroid/levothyroxine and the TSH lab test. So use this page to find a much better doctor. The success is in your hands!~Janie, hypothyroid patient and site creator
So whats a GOOD DOC? He/She is one who:
1. Willingly prescribes a treatment with T3 in it.That means either synthetic T4 with synthetic T3, or T3 alone, multi-dosed, or a working NDT
2. Uses the labs free T3, free T4 and RT3 . Its about being optimal.
3. Is willing to let you dose to optimal by the frees rather than the inadequate TSH
BUT NOTE: no doctor is caught up with everything we know! Some are just better than others. So go in there informed and prepared to GUIDE any doctor, which this site and the will help you do. You can have the book right with you, highlighted and bookmarked, if need be. Be proactive.
Stop The Thyroid Madness
Inferior medical diagnosis and treatment of thyroid disorders are, apparently, a common thing in our medical system. It might be claimed that our medical systems have not advanced to the level of managing the disorder well enough. The only reason this argument wont pass is because many patients have suffered from the incompetence of the system and have discovered that only they can help themselves. This has made it necessary for thyroid patients to come together online on a forum dubbed Stop The Thyroid Madness.
All these patients have, at one time in their lives, suffered from medical thyroid issues. One Janie Bowthorpe has actually written a book concerning the same. She also operates the forum and owns the website. Her book which is currently available on Amazon shows just how much the disease is mismanaged. She actually labeled it a patients movement against decades of inferior treatment. Janie suffered from an undiagnosed thyroid condition for many years during which doctors kept saying that she was okay. It was only when she saw information about a natural drug on a certain website that she started experiencing the good life she once knew.
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Hashimotos Relatedtwo Antibodies At The Minimum
TgAb measures the level of the antibody protein anti-thyroglobulin in order to discern the presence of Hashimotos disease.
Anti-TPO measures the thyroid antibody TPO. TPO refers to the enzyme made in your thyroid gland which helps produce thyroid hormones.
IMPORTANT NOTE: since some with Hashis can also have the Graves antibodies, many patients are also testing both TSI and TRAB. . TSI 80 or below is considered remission. Ideally, you should have zero TSI. Labs use either > 140 or > 125 as positive for Graves Disease. TrAb should be undetectable. Remission is when TrAb is less than .9. They also use a test called the TBII but were not sure what the perfect levels are for that one yet.
A very small body can show no antibodies, yet symptoms of Hashis. They need to talk to their doctor about an ultrasound.
Have Hashis?Highly recommended is the patient-to-patient book Hashimotos: Taming the Beast. Written in a concise style, avoiding long stories and chit chat for those with brain fog. Covers important details, also with four important patient-to-patient chapters, including one with 96 short testimonies on how actual Hashis patients got their antibodies down, and so much more.
What If I Have Both Antibodies For Hashis And Graves
Its called Hashitoxicosis.
This is a more difficult form of a thyroid autoimmune condition where you can have Hashimotos antibodies, PLUS an elevated TSI the latter which is a member of the Thyroid Stimulating Hormone Receptor Antibody family, and which at least 80% of Graves patients can have. You can both hyper and hypo symptoms. Low Dose Naltrexone has been helpful for many individuals who have these antibodies.
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Optimal Lab Valueshow We As Patients Learned To Interpret Lab Results
THIS WAS HUGE!! Years ago in a group started by me, , we began to notice that healthy people /healthy levels were falling in a certain part of the range. i.e it has NOTHING to do with falling anywhere in those ridiculous normal ranges!Check out below. ~Janie, hypothyroid patient and site creator
Fair Warning: This information is copyrighted. That means if you use it anywhere without the permission of the owner, in addition to failing to state where its from even after getting permission, you are doing it illegally and are making yourself open for legal action.
How To Treat Hypothyroidism
- Synthetic T4 with Synthetic T3 Man-made thyroid hormones. We have noticed that we we have to be optimal, not just on them. They naturally lower the TSH lab test below range when we get optimal, and contrary to what doctors state, that low TSH when on these meds has notbeen harmful, and is NOT the same as what Graves disease does, and does NOT cause bone less and heart disease. We also have to have good iron and cortisol levels to tolerate raising it in search of our optimal amount.
- T3-only We have found good results with dosing three times a day, often 4 hours apart. Mostly used by people who have a strong genetic mutation preventing the conversion of T4 to T3. Or by those with a high Reverse T3 .
- Natural Desiccated thyroidUnfortunately, most American brands are not the consistently excellent brands they used to be. They changed< read the latter. So its hard to recommend them like we used to. So if you choose this route, we learned tokeep an eye out and see if we can get optimal, not just on it.
- Natural Thyroid supplements These include names like NutriMeds, Thyrogold, Thyrovanz et al. But again, we find it important to see if we can get optimal. Plus we see occasional bad batches or high RT3 without the typical issues that cause high RT3.NOTE: We discovered we also have to have good iron and cortisol levels to tolerate raising any of these in search of our optimal amount.
The worst way we have learned to treat hypothyroidism
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Im Seeing My Tsh Go Below Range
Even on non-optimal doses of a treatment with both T4 and T3, or T3-only, we have seen that its typical and expected to see a TSH lab result go below the range. And it will continue being low as we make our way up to an optimal dose.
Sadly, many report theyve had to stand firm against doctors who wrongly freak out about that normal low TSH with T3 in your treatment. Our low TSH is not the same as the low TSH seen with Graves disease, the hyperthyroid side of the coin that doctors confuse it with. Our low TSH when optimal with the frees does NOT cause bone loss or heart diseaseits uncontrolled Graves disease that can do that, or still being underdosed, or having an iron or cortisol problem keeping us underdosed.
To the contrary, when we are nearing optimal with our free T3 and free T4, or right at it, patients have reported improved bone health via scands, and improved heart health via symptoms and tests!!
What If I Suspect I Have A Cortisol Problem
This is where the companion book Stop the Thyroid Madness: A Patient Revolution Against Decades of Inferior Thyroid treatment, aka STTM I, will help i.e. Chapters 5 and 6.
Dont guess if you have either too low or too high cortisol. Order a saliva cortisol test and find out what is going on.Then compare your results to this page, NOT just the graphic they provide afterwards.
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